Talk:Weapon mastery (4E)

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Are these rules the same as those in Dragon 368? --Urban 16:29, 9 November 2008 (CET)

It is, with the following changes:
  • The Martial Class requirement has been removed. Instead, powers have the Martial keyword (the character becomes martial rather than having to be martial)
  • Whip Master/Whip Crack has been rewritten for the same effect (threatening reach) and given an Intimidation bonus.
--Starfox 20:20, 9 November 2008 (CET)

Martial only

Dedicated weapon training is a hallmark of martial characters. I a very much opposed to this change. In my opinion, giving every power source easy access it cheapens the whole weapon specialization thing and makes it much less special. A non-martial character can still qualify for weapon training. See Multiclass limitations below.

Some changes may be in order (perhaps letting rogues use whips with dexterity), but I suggest waiting with that until we get Martial Power on hand. Apparently there will no weapon specialization feats in Martial Power, but there will certainly be feats that gives more options.

--Urban 12:33, 12 November 2008 (CET)

Multiclass limitations

Non-martial characters can still qualify for the weapon feats by taking a class-specific multiclass feats. A character can take one class-specific multiclass (such as the Fighter Mulitclass feat Student of the Sword). See page 208 of the PHB:

"There are two restrictions on your choice of a class-specific multiclass feat. First, you can’t take a multiclass feat for your own class. Second, once you take a multiclass feat, you can’t take a class-specific feat for a different class. You can dabble in a second class but not a third."

The weapon multiclass feats are not class specific. This should mean that a Wizard character can take Student of the Sword and Whip mastery. She dabbles in the fighter class, and can specialize in a particular weapon. This does not give more powers, only more power swap options. Basically, a non-martial character must spend an extra feat in order to qualify for weapon training. This sounds fair enough to me.

--Urban 12:33, 12 November 2008 (CET)