Rogue (Apath)

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Unofficial rules compendium

Perceived as a weak class, the rogue has been spruced up.

Alternate Skill Bonuses

Rogues benefit from having alternate attribute modifiers to their skills; choose either one. This ability is free for rogues and available as the Alternate Skill Technique talent to others.

This should allow the rogue to focus more on a few attributes, reducing multi-attribute dependency.

Skill (Subskill) Normal Key Ability Alternate Key Ability
Acrobatics Dex Str
Appraise Int Wis
Bluff Cha Int
Climb Str Dex
Craft (Smith of any kind) Int Str
Craft (Fermenting) Int Wis
Craft (Any other) Int Dex
Diplomacy Cha Wis
Disable Device Dex Int
Disguise Cha Wis
Escape Artist Dex Con
Fly Dex Con
Handle Animal Cha Wis
Heal Wis Int
Intimidate Cha Str
Knowledge Int Wis
Linguistics Int Wis
Perception Wis Int
Perform (comedy, dance, keyboard, string) Cha Dex
Perform (act, percussion, oratory, wind, sing) Cha Con
Profession (courtesan, gambler, innkeeper) Wis Cha
Profession (farmer, miner, soldier, woodcutter) Wis Str
Profession (other) Wis Int
Ride Dex Cha
Sense Motive Wis Cha
Sleight of Hand Dex Cha
Spellcraft Int Wis
Stealth Dex Con
Survival Wis Con
Swim Str Con
Use Magic Device Cha Int
  1. You can't add the same ability score to a particular skill twice. This limits the combinations with effects like the Intimidating Prowess feat.
  2. A skill that changes what attribute it is connected to is counted as a skill of the new attribute when making skill checks, but not for other purposes. See Paizo errata. Note that a skill that has a primary key attribute that is Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution suffers from armor check penalties, even if used with another attribute as an alternate key ability. An effect (such as rage) that prevents the use of skills tied to a certain attribute always refers to the original attribute of the skill.
  3. Skills with several subskills (Craft, Knowledge, Perform and Profession) have certain subskills with different alternate key abilities. If a specific subskill has a different alternate key ability, you cannot use it with the common alternate key ability.


Sneak Attack

Taking a bigger view of Sneak Attack, the motivation for this ability lies in the hit point mechanic. Rogues are to be back-alley men and should be able to do things like knock others unconscious with a sap. The hit point mechanic makes this impossible to do. Enter sneak attack, which partially counters the hit point mechanic and lets a high-level rogue have a similar chance of knocking out a high-level opponent that a low-level rogue has of knocking out a low-level opponent.

A rogue can sneak attack any target, including one that has any degree of concealment or is immune critical hits. Only defenses that specifically mention sneak attack work.

Rogue Talents

Many rogue talents have been consolidated or modified. The current table can be found here: Rogue Talents.

Optional Rule: Skill Point Compensation

If using the common (around here) option to give all characters 2 additional skill points per level, rouges get a small boost to compensate for the lessened uniqueness of their large number of skill points.

With this option, a rogue gets an additional advanced talent at level 5.

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