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== Using Rituals ==
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=== Rituals and Resting ===
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{{Info|Do not use the ritual header template on this page! Doing so causes the rituals on this page to be included in the automagic table.}}
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Rituals with a cast time of 10 minutes can be performed during a short rest.
 
  
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=== Rituals in Combat ===
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== Arcane Power ==
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In certain cases, it might be necessary to perform a ritual in an action scene, usually because of time constraints or because the opposition interrupted the ritual casting. In such circumstances, one minute of cast time is equal to one success during a skill challenge. The key skill of the ritual is the primary skill of the skill challenge, and other skills can be used depending on the situation and type of ritual. The listed secondary skills generally work, in addition to any creative skill uses players can come up with.
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Notes about rituals in ''Arcane Power'' and on this wiki.
  
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The DC of these checks is 10 +1/2 level of the ritual. The main caster must always use the key skill each round. Record each use of the key skill by someone who can cast the ritual; the highest such attempt is used as the ritual check, with a +2 for each other character who contributed at least one success to the ritual.
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=== Shrink ===
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'''Shrink''' (level 6) versus [[Shrink Item (4E)|Shrink Item]] (level 5): The official version has smaller size reduction and limited duration. --[[User:Urban|Urban]] 00:34, 3 May 2009 (CEST)
  
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''This is just a first draft of a skill list; I don't even have my books with me''
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=== Telepathic Bond ===
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'''Telepathic Bond''' (level 14) in ''Arcane Power'' appears to be the official version of [[Telepathic Bond (4E)|Telepathic Bond]] (level 12) and [[Telepathic Message (4E)|Telepathic Message]] (level 7) on this wiki. Interplanar telepathy is not mentioned in the official description, so it probably works. --[[User:Urban|Urban]] 00:34, 3 May 2009 (CEST)
  
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== Casting time and duration ==
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The following is some thoughts I have and that were mentioned while painting. --[[User:TexaS|TexaS]] 23:33, 7 April 2009 (CEST
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Rituals use minutes and hours when all other time in the game has been made abstract.
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Casting time should be "Can be cast during short rest.", "Can be cast during long rest." or "Can be cast as a standard action." and so on.
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Duration should be handled in much the same way. It should be encounter, until milestone, daily, until the party have a few days, for an adventure arc or permanent and so on.
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If casting requires a long rest and duration is encounter perhaps there might be an activation that is quicker that makes sure you use it when you require it, not just for the first encounter.
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:Agrre on these points, but it is a lot of work to make it so. The best I can do is write guidelines for how they are used - like the rule that 10-minute rituals can be cast during a short break. Anything else would take a full rewrite. --[[User:Starfox|Starfox]] 09:40, 8 April 2009 (CEST)
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::Yes, that is probably the only way to handle it practically. I guess that most usual rituals would become "Casting time short rest, duration until next milestone or long rest." An hour would probably be more than an encounter but less than until next long rest. --[[User:TexaS|TexaS]] 22:42, 8 April 2009 (CEST)
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===Obsolete Rituals===
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The [[Obsolete Rituals (4E)]] page contains rituals not likely to get any more attention or development, but which I still don't want to just delete
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== Rituals in Development ==
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This section  describes [[rituals (4E)|rituals]] in development for use with {{4EDD}}.
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<!-- Remove Magic-->
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<onlyinclude>
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{{4E ritual
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|name=Remove Magic
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|fluff=You negate lingering magic.
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|level=5
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|category=Exploration
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|time=10 minutes
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|duration=Instantaneous
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|componentcost=25 gp.
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|marketprice=300 gp.
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|keyskill=Arcana
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}}
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You remove the lingering effects of rituals or dispel the lingering effects of powers. The margin of success required depends on the casting time of the ritual or power. In addition, there is a penalty on the Arcana check equal to half the level of the effect.
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This ritual cannot destroy traps, hazards, creatures, magic items, or artifacts, even if powers or rituals were used to create them. Nor does it affect rituals and powers of instantaneous duration.
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{{4E ritual table
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|keyskill=Arcana
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|resultheader=Maximum casting time that can be dispelled
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|result9=1 minute, powers
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|result10=10 minutes
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|result20=1 hour
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|result30=1 day
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|result40=More than 1 day
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}}
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=== Detect Thoughts ===
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===Totem Scout Circle===
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{{4E ritual
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|name=Totem Scout Circle
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|fluff=Project your spirits in the form of animals.
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|level=8
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|category=Exploration
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|time=10 minutes
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|duration=Variable
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|componentcost=150 gp.
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|marketprice=625 gp.
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|keyskill=Nature
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}}
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This is the same as the Totem Scout ritual, except each participant in the ritual can posses an animal based on their totem.
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===Totem Scout ===
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{{4E ritual
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|name=Totem Scout
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|fluff=You project your spirit in a totem animal.
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|level=6
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|category=Exploration
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|time=10 minutes
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|duration=Variable
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|componentcost=75 gp.
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|marketprice=325 gp.
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|keyskill=Nature
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}}
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This is a [[Glossary (4E)#Totem|Totem]] ritual.
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You gain control of an animal of your totem species and can see trough its senses. This animal must start within a thousand squares (one mile) of you. If there is no animal of the correct species in range, the ritual fails. Sustaining the ritual is a standard action, and allows you to control the totem scout and perceive through its senses. There is no need for line of sight or line of effect.
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The totem scout uses your attributes except as outlined below, but is a minion and cannot make attacks. It cannot speak, manipulate objects, open doors, or otherwise interact intelligently with creatures or objects. The ritual ends if the totem scout takes any damage. The size of the totem scout is the same as that of a natural animal of its type. The totem scout gains a special bonus depending on your totem.
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|valign="top"|'''Totem'''||valign="top" |'''Benefit'''
 
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|valign="top"|'''Key Skill'''||'''Secondary Skills'''
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|valign="top"|'''Gatherer'''||valign="top" |Totem Scout can manipulate objects and open doors
 
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||Arcana|||Bluff
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|valign="top"|'''Grazer'''||valign="top"|Ritual does not end when the totem scout is damaged; it can take as much damage as you can.
 
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||Religion|||Diplomacy
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|valign="top"|'''Hunter'''||valign="top" |+4 speed
 
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||Nature|||Athletics
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|valign="top"|'''Pouncer'''||valign="top"|+2 speed, +4 initiative
 
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||Heal|||Endurance
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|valign="top"|'''Prey'''||valign="top" |+2 Speed, +5 Perception
 
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|valign="top"|'''Ritual Type'''||'''Secondary Skills'''
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|valign="top"|'''Stalker'''||valign="top" |+5 Stealth
 
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||Binding|||Intimidation
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||Creation|||History
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The maximum range and duration of the ritual depends on the result of the Nature check.
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|valign="top"|'''Nature Check Result'''||valign="top" |'''Duration'''||valign="top" |'''Range'''
 
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||Deception|||Diplomacy
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|valign="top"|0-9||valign="top" |10 minutes ||valign="top"|1,000 (1 mile)
 
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||Divination|||Perception
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|valign="top"|10-19||valign="top" |1 hour||valign="top"|5,000 (5 miles)
 
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||Exploration|||Stealth
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|valign="top"|20-29||valign="top" |2 hours||valign="top"|10,000 (10 miles)
 
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||Restoration|||Endurance
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|valign="top"|30-39||valign="top" |4 hours||valign="top"|15,000 (15 miles)
 
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||Scrying|||Insight
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|valign="top"|40 or more||valign="top" |8 hours||valign="top"|20,000 (20 miles)
 
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||Travel|||Thievery
 
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||Warding|||Travel
 
 
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The totem scout is magically linked to you, even after it has been defeated, and counts as a personal possession for the purpose of targeting powers and rituals.
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|fluff=Originally created to the legendary arch-mage Rary, this ritual lets a wizard change his spell repertoire.
 
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|level=7
 
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|category= Binding
 
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|time=10 minutes
 
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|componentcost=200 gp
 
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|marketprice=500 gp
 
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|keyskill=Arcana
 
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Choose a single, unspent wizard daily attack power or utility power. You can exchange this power from another power from your spellbook, just as if you had prepared that power instead for today.
 
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Latest revision as of 19:30, 20 November 2009

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Arcane Power

Notes about rituals in Arcane Power and on this wiki.

Shrink

Shrink (level 6) versus Shrink Item (level 5): The official version has smaller size reduction and limited duration. --Urban 00:34, 3 May 2009 (CEST)

Telepathic Bond

Telepathic Bond (level 14) in Arcane Power appears to be the official version of Telepathic Bond (level 12) and Telepathic Message (level 7) on this wiki. Interplanar telepathy is not mentioned in the official description, so it probably works. --Urban 00:34, 3 May 2009 (CEST)

Casting time and duration

The following is some thoughts I have and that were mentioned while painting. --TexaS 23:33, 7 April 2009 (CEST

Rituals use minutes and hours when all other time in the game has been made abstract.

Casting time should be "Can be cast during short rest.", "Can be cast during long rest." or "Can be cast as a standard action." and so on.

Duration should be handled in much the same way. It should be encounter, until milestone, daily, until the party have a few days, for an adventure arc or permanent and so on.

If casting requires a long rest and duration is encounter perhaps there might be an activation that is quicker that makes sure you use it when you require it, not just for the first encounter.

Agrre on these points, but it is a lot of work to make it so. The best I can do is write guidelines for how they are used - like the rule that 10-minute rituals can be cast during a short break. Anything else would take a full rewrite. --Starfox 09:40, 8 April 2009 (CEST)
Yes, that is probably the only way to handle it practically. I guess that most usual rituals would become "Casting time short rest, duration until next milestone or long rest." An hour would probably be more than an encounter but less than until next long rest. --TexaS 22:42, 8 April 2009 (CEST)

Obsolete Rituals

The Obsolete Rituals (4E) page contains rituals not likely to get any more attention or development, but which I still don't want to just delete

Rituals in Development

This section describes rituals in development for use with 4th edition Dungeons & Dragons.


Remove Magic

You negate lingering magic.
Level: 5 Component Cost: 25 gp.
Category: Exploration Market Price: 300 gp.
Time: 10 minutes Key Skill: Arcana
Duration: Instantaneous

You remove the lingering effects of rituals or dispel the lingering effects of powers. The margin of success required depends on the casting time of the ritual or power. In addition, there is a penalty on the Arcana check equal to half the level of the effect.

This ritual cannot destroy traps, hazards, creatures, magic items, or artifacts, even if powers or rituals were used to create them. Nor does it affect rituals and powers of instantaneous duration.

Arcana Check Result Maximum casting time that can be dispelled
9 or lower 1 minute, powers
10-19 10 minutes
20-29 1 hour
30-39 1 day
40 or higher More than 1 day



Detect Thoughts

Totem Scout Circle

Totem Scout Circle

Project your spirits in the form of animals.
Level: 8 Component Cost: 150 gp.
Category: Exploration Market Price: 625 gp.
Time: 10 minutes Key Skill: Nature
Duration: Variable

This is the same as the Totem Scout ritual, except each participant in the ritual can posses an animal based on their totem.

Totem Scout

Totem Scout

You project your spirit in a totem animal.
Level: 6 Component Cost: 75 gp.
Category: Exploration Market Price: 325 gp.
Time: 10 minutes Key Skill: Nature
Duration: Variable

This is a Totem ritual.

You gain control of an animal of your totem species and can see trough its senses. This animal must start within a thousand squares (one mile) of you. If there is no animal of the correct species in range, the ritual fails. Sustaining the ritual is a standard action, and allows you to control the totem scout and perceive through its senses. There is no need for line of sight or line of effect.

The totem scout uses your attributes except as outlined below, but is a minion and cannot make attacks. It cannot speak, manipulate objects, open doors, or otherwise interact intelligently with creatures or objects. The ritual ends if the totem scout takes any damage. The size of the totem scout is the same as that of a natural animal of its type. The totem scout gains a special bonus depending on your totem.

Totem Benefit
Gatherer Totem Scout can manipulate objects and open doors
Grazer Ritual does not end when the totem scout is damaged; it can take as much damage as you can.
Hunter +4 speed
Pouncer +2 speed, +4 initiative
Prey +2 Speed, +5 Perception
Stalker +5 Stealth

The maximum range and duration of the ritual depends on the result of the Nature check.

Nature Check Result Duration Range
0-9 10 minutes 1,000 (1 mile)
10-19 1 hour 5,000 (5 miles)
20-29 2 hours 10,000 (10 miles)
30-39 4 hours 15,000 (15 miles)
40 or more 8 hours 20,000 (20 miles)

The totem scout is magically linked to you, even after it has been defeated, and counts as a personal possession for the purpose of targeting powers and rituals.

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